Bad Company 2 Beta

[Calneon]

Been playing this since 6pm, here's a 10 minute video I made.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIeAjoZghks

[Chalex4]

Wow, nice vid mate. That looks really fun.

I've preordered the game from Play, but since I hadn't got a beta key yet I got one from http://www.fileplay.net/.

I'm downloading the game from the following RapidShare links, and they're maxing out my connection:

http://rapidshare.com/files/342507043/BFBC2_beta.part8.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/342512232/BFBC2_beta.part7.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/342513610/BFBC2_beta.part6.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/342513612/BFBC2_beta.part5.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/342514590/BFBC2_beta.part4.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/342516190/BFBC2_beta.part3.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/342515510/BFBC2_beta.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/342513664/BFBC2_beta.part1.rar

Can't wait to play it later :D. I'll keep you posted.

[VoX]

Got a key, will download when the mirrors become available (Am 60p short in PayPal to get a FilePlay subscribers account to open it up now haha!)


Edit: Just watched the vid, looks pure win! Nice one.

[Colonel Mitch]

couldnt get a key.

[Mr.Big]

i came thrice :)

[Target]

Looks pretty good, wot are the perk things? they like cod perks? You think the weapon system has been improve since BF2 so you can actually kill people now?

[Chalex4]

I've been playing this game for 3 hours, and once you can get on a UK server it's such an amazing game.

The visuals and sound are superb, and the gameplay is just like BF2 all over again!! There are less air vehicles than before, but in the beta you still get to fly an apache and blackhawk. I also REALLY like the squad system, since you can spawn on any player then and really work together.

The combat is very MW2 style, in that "RUSH" kind of sense. It pwns MW2 though because of the pure scale, and of course has all the perks and upgrades that add more incentives to keep playing.

I will DEFINITELY grab this game :D. I'll try and find some decent screenshots for you guys.

Oh, and we are soooo gettting a server for this!!


EDIT: Target, the weapons system is amazingly accurate (nothing like BF2 at all :p). Obviously since it's a beta things will only improve.

[Target]

Sweet, this game rapes console tards aswell because battlefield games have always been a hell of alot better on pc :D
Can't wait to play it :D

[Chalex4]

Screenshots were taken on the following system: i7 920@4.0GHz / 6GB / 5970 (not my PC :p)
SETTINGS: 1920*1200 / 4XAA / 16XAF / MAX SETTINGS

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/2930/bfbc2game20100128220933.jpg

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/5035/bfbc2game20100128220658.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2934/bfbc2game20100128220558t.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5850/bfbc2game20100128220520.jpg


Looks pretty similar on my system, you can still put the AA up waaayyy higher than the 4xAA shown above.

[Calneon]

Screenshots were taken on the following system: i7 920@4.0GHz / 6GB / 5970 (not my PC :p)
SETTINGS: 1920*1200 / 4XAA / 16XAF / MAX SETTINGS

It looks great but unfortunately that's the spec you need to run it smooth (60FPS) at those settings. It still looks good on medium and runs pretty smooth so I'm not bothered much.

http://www.alttabbed.com/battlefield-bad-company-2-beta-unleashed/

[Target]

Like BF2 it needs a decent pc to run it on full settings :D Better get my new rig built then so I can actually play it at all :P

[ez64]

Screenshots were taken on the following system: i7 920@4.0GHz / 6GB / 5970 (not my PC :p)
SETTINGS: 1920*1200 / 4XAA / 16XAF / MAX SETTINGS

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/2930/bfbc2game20100128220933.jpg

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/5035/bfbc2game20100128220658.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2934/bfbc2game20100128220558t.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5850/bfbc2game20100128220520.jpg


Looks pretty similar on my system, you can still put the AA up waaayyy higher than the 4xAA shown above.


Looks so much like quakewars might have to give this a go :D

[Chalex4]

I just played for another few hours, and oh my god this game is awesome :D.

The destructibility is amazing, it really is. You'll start to realise that by destroying certain things e.g. slashing your way through a fence (middle mouse button), that you can make up a whole bunch of different tactics depending on the environment and how much cover you have left. You can also knock down doors, and this really makes storming a building SO much more fun!

This adds so much more to playing an FPS, and makes me wonder how I ever lived without destructible environments. Oh, and the destructibility in this game makes Crysis look like child's play, seriously :p.

There's a load of other stuff I haven't mentioned, like going to the UAV terminal and controlling the UAV and hellfire missiles. It's a great way to help your team and rack up the points. I've also got quite a few unlocks now, about 5 in total. Most are guns, which is awesome, and the best thing is that some unlocked guns can be used with any class :D. Now Recon can have a shotgun instead of a sniper, which could be handy in some situations...I suppose!!

[ez64]

Might need to upgrade my PC this month then :)

Oh and for AOE as well I hear its a beast on DX7.

[Colonel Mitch]

Im sure AoE can run just software based :P

[ez64]

True but theres this new technology that involves a separate card for processing graphics data on a slot card just for those people that want the light effect, bit leetist tbh I cannot see it catching on for the mainstream.

[D_K_Head]

anyone up for a get-together on this one tonight?

[Chalex4]

I would love to, but I'm going out tonight :D. Definitely within the next few days though.

[Vicious Horizon]

Gyarr, I wish I had a code v_v I'm gonna pre-order this instead of MW2/New screen. I can live with a CRT.

[ez64]

Your eyes will not forgive you :D

[VoX]

Good game so far, just having a few problems.


Getting a massive graphical glitch in terms of what looks like extreme artifacting, but I've had EVGA precision running to monitor the temps, the max I saw was 85C so forces 100% fan speed and got it down to around 78C, yet I still get these apparent artifacts :/.


Settings are all on high, have tried x16AF x8AF and x2 and x4 AA.

Any ideas anyone?

Phantom, what drivers are you running for your GTX280 if you don't mind me asking?

[ez64]

might want to try and use beta drivers if possible they are normally far better.

[VoX]

I'm still on 185.85's lol. Didn't update as they have stable as a rock for me so far.

[Colonel Mitch]

Good game so far, just having a few problems.


Getting a massive graphical glitch in terms of what looks like extreme artifacting, but I've had EVGA precision running to monitor the temps, the max I saw was 85C so forces 100% fan speed and got it down to around 78C, yet I still get these apparent artifacts :/.


Settings are all on high, have tried x16AF x8AF and x2 and x4 AA.

Any ideas anyone?

Phantom, what drivers are you running for your GTX280 if you don't mind me asking?

The problem is your card is made by nvidia ;)

Get an ATi card and all will be well :P

Also - where can i get teh beta for this????

[D_K_Head]

ton of downloads over the net, and a few torrents too. Be careful with the torrents though, I've heard there are some nasty ones floating around

[Calneon]

I'm on 195.81, try turning Level Of Detail down to low, that really helped my performance.

[Chalex4]

I think I'm going to have to start putting some of my settings on low, I'm getting a pretty low FPS when everything blows up :p.

Either that or I'll grab a 5850. Hmmm..

[Calneon]

[WindowSettings]
Width=1920
Height=1200
Fullscreen=true
RefreshRate=59.950001
VSync=false
[Sound]
Quality=high
VoipEnable=true
[Graphics]
Effects=high
Soldiers=high
Vehicles=high
Overgrowth=low
Undergrowth=low
StaticObjects=low
Terrain=low
Shadows=high
Bloom=true
HSAO=false
MSAA=2
Water=high
MainQuality=custom
Texture=high
DxVersion=10
Aniso=4
Detail=low

Is what I use. Runs 60+ most of the time except big firefights.

[Chalex4]

What file do you put those settings in Phantom? I had a quick look but couldn't find it.

Also, is the BC2 updater saying that there's a new update available? I try to update to the latest version (512914) but then it just says "Could not find latest patch version" and lets me play the "old" version (511270). Oh well :p.

[VoX]

Documents > BFBC2Beta > Settings.ini


Am going to try those settings in a sec, however I seem to get a nice, high, stable FPS (bar GFX glitching) with these:

[WindowSettings]
Width=1920
Height=1200
Fullscreen=true
RefreshRate=59.950001
VSync=false
[Sound]
Quality=medium
VoipEnable=true
[Graphics]
Effects=high
Soldiers=high
Vehicles=high
Overgrowth=high
Undergrowth=high
StaticObjects=high
Terrain=high
Shadows=high
Bloom=true
HSAO=true
MSAA=1
Water=high
MainQuality=custom
Texture=high
DxVersion=auto
Aniso=4
Detail=high

[Calneon]

I'd rather have 4xAA than more detailed terrain and bushes. HSAO also kills my FPS and I don't even know what it does.

[Chalex4]

Yeah they should explain what HSAO is :p. I have no idea either.

Oh, and I managed to update BC2 by just running the updater with administrator privs.

[Vicious Horizon]

HSAO is a form of Ambient Occlusion.

In full - Horizon Split Ambient Occlusion.

[VoX]

If it's anything like the nVidia one it's a moderate FPS hit for not a lot of eye candy in return.


Have updated to latest version, just about to try and see if that fixes the bugs I was getting.

[Calneon]

UAV

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdEt80TFYYk

[Chalex4]

I love the UAV, it's so much fun :). Plus, the enemy often don't notice you for aggeess.

MPUK have released some stats about the beta :D. It certainly looks like this will be the next big thing, perhaps even more so than MW2 for PC gamers.


"We've never seen demand like it," says Craig Fletcher, Managing Director, Multiplay. "At our peak, we were connecting 10,000 people per second - and we managed the demand better than other servers, many of whom were down for hours when demand surged. If there was ever any doubt that our infrastructure and technology in Fileplay was anything other than best in its class, the past 16 hours have proved it."

Key stats (as of 2:00pm 29/01/2010):


Over 1 million page views to Multiplay over night
Over 100,000 new Multiplay Member Accounts created
Over 10,000 user connections per second at peak
10,000 keys distributed in under 3 hours
30,000 files served over night (45 Terabytes of data so approx 5000 DVDs)
6,000 player slots on our European Game servers solidly full.
Multiplay quadrupled Fileplay's web serving capacity in under 2 hours to deal with the huge surge in demand.

[Calneon]

That's insane. This game will definitely be the next big game, love it.

[Target]

Yeh this games gunna be huge...I take it that the actually release version won't be quiet as resource heavy? But it looks amazing, its definately replacing CoD but hopefully this will give IW the kick in the face to decide to give dedi servers !!!!!

On that UAV are you just designating targets or do you actually have missiles couldn't really tell

[Calneon]

Yeh this games gunna be huge...I take it that the actually release version won't be quiet as resource heavy? But it looks amazing, its definately replacing CoD but hopefully this will give IW the kick in the face to decide to give dedi servers !!!!!

On that UAV are you just designating targets or do you actually have missiles couldn't really tell
You hover above and click where u want a missile to go. You have to aim it yourself it doesn't home in or anything. I also doubt they will do much optimization on the performance.

[Chalex4]

The rockets come from the helicopter (UAV) that you are flying I believe. And if you haven't seen it already, here's the singleplayer trailer (it's not that great lol).

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[D_K_Head]

I love the UAV, it's so much fun :). Plus, the enemy often don't notice you for aggeess.

MPUK have released some stats about the beta :D. It certainly looks like this will be the next big thing, perhaps even more so than MW2 for PC gamers.

Speak for yourself. Two sniper shots and the thing starts spinning.

[Bloo]

Still can't see the appeal of it. The beta map is so bland and devoid of colour, the gameplay is kinda dull and the interface is unresponsive (I'm sure that'll be fixed from beta... erm, yeah right.)

I somehow don't think this is going to knock MW2 off its perch, unless they really ramp up their marketing campaign. Which is the real reason why MW2 sells well.

[ez64]

Still no key for me :(

[Calneon]

Still can't see the appeal of it. The beta map is so bland and devoid of colour, the gameplay is kinda dull and the interface is unresponsive (I'm sure that'll be fixed from beta... erm, yeah right.)

I somehow don't think this is going to knock MW2 off its perch, unless they really ramp up their marketing campaign. Which is the real reason why MW2 sells well.
I don't think anyone thinks BC2 has a chance of outselling MW2. It's a totally different game to MW2 and if you find the gameplay kinda dull then I don't think you're a fan of FPS games.

[Bloo]

I don't think anyone thinks BC2 has a chance of outselling MW2. It's a totally different game to MW2 and if you find the gameplay kinda dull then I don't think you're a fan of FPS games.

Yes, I clearly dislike an entire genre of games because I find the mash-up of the slow building Battlefield series and the fast-pace action of the CoD series disorienting and odd. I am a fool to attempt to play a FPS games, considering near half of my library of games are FPS's. I clearly didn't like them either.

[Target]

BC2 is clearly a win version of Bf2 and MW2 fails so therefore BC2 winz... hopefully full version will be win and what ever it is it will be an improvement on Modern Warfail !!! 2

[Bloo]

n improvement on Modern Warfail !!! 2

Now that just wins epically. Warfail, brilliant Target. xD

Edit: Also, after playing around more I have started to find it better, mostly because the unlocked guns though according to stats are around equal with the starting gun still seem to drop enemies quicker and make the shooting.... ya'know fun. The art design of the map is still annoyingly washed out and devoid of colour though. :/

[Calneon]

It's a battlefield, it doesn't have to be full of pretty colours.

[ez64]

http://justsomeasiankid.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/battlefield_heroes_9.jpg

:D

[Isphera]

I think we mean real life/lifelike battlefields ez :P

[D_K_Head]

What? it's a battlefield set in a snowy area. Now I don't know what you know about it, but snowy areas are generally white. And grey. White and Grey.

Are you complaining that they made snow white?

[Trigger]

You realise there not all set in snow also, the Ps3 beta had its map set in the desert, gonna be a lot of varied maps

[Target]

The only thing that could let the game down is the weapon system, in MW2 its only thing in the game that works really well and in the BF2 the weapon system failed pretty badly.

[Vicious Horizon]

Heh, Modern WankFest 2.

[Bloo]

You realise there not all set in snow also, the Ps3 beta had its map set in the desert, gonna be a lot of varied maps

I realise that yes. Its not about the limited colour palette, more about the design, its hard to explain but everything looks a... washed out. Like the colour that is there doesn't stand out at all (e.g. the Russian flag on the tank looks a bit dull, probably intentional so it doesn't give it away, but still.) I'm still hoping that the other maps won't feel like that.

[ez64]

I think we mean real life/lifelike battlefields ez :P

You mean war doesn't actually look like that?

[Bloo]

The only thing that could let the game down is the weapon system, in MW2 its only thing in the game that works really well and in the BF2 the weapon system failed pretty badly.

Shotties are pretty much useless in the game yeah, when you only get one main weapon there pretty much isn't any point in getting one. Aside from that, it feels weird that the medic gets a LMG, deadly in combat and can heal himself, nasty.

[D_K_Head]

the shottie is pretty effective against grouped enemies, and for duck and cover combat, and the LMG is really REALLY weak

[Mr.Big]

when do you ever find groups of enemies with circa 1cm between them?

[Bloo]

When do you ever get close enough to enemies that the shotgun becomes effective anyway? :p Maybe indoors I guess, but even then the knife is more effective.

Also the only weak LMG is the first one, but once you get an upgraded one it becomes a monster.

[Vicious Horizon]

Quote from PCG Magazine, March

FAIL GAME WON'T HAVE MODES OR PUBLIC DEDICATED SERVERS

DICe will not be making the dedicated server files for Battlefield: Bad Company 2 available to players. Citing "security and integrity of our game and dedicated servers",they'll lease the use of dedicated servers to the players. Locking down the serer files means no multiplayer mods.

DICE previously took advantage of Modern WankFail 2's lack of dedicated servers to all its players and continue the tradition of the ultimate FPS experience.


WHY DO YOU HATE PC GAMERS!?

[Isphera]

I'm not fussed, just pre-ordered on PS3 since my PC is epic fail ATM and I'm still waiting on nVidia and Intel to get their act together.

[Calneon]

Quote from PCG Magazine, March

FAIL GAME WON'T HAVE MODES OR PUBLIC DEDICATED SERVERS

DICe will not be making the dedicated server files for Battlefield: Bad Company 2 available to players. Citing "security and integrity of our game and dedicated servers",they'll lease the use of dedicated servers to the players. Locking down the serer files means no multiplayer mods.

DICE previously took advantage of Modern WankFail 2's lack of dedicated servers to all its players and continue the tradition of the ultimate FPS experience.


WHY DO YOU HATE PC GAMERS!?
You're making a massive deal out of this. It's the same as BF2, ranked servers can only be bought from specific server hosts to prevent cheating (making servers that rank you up etc). I never played on unranked servers so it doesn't bother me.

Unless I'm mistaken, I thought you could still host servers with other hosts but they just wouldn't be ranked servers.

[Target]

Yeh dice are only giving the ability to host to certain hosting companies to stop cheating

[Chalex4]

To be honest, anything that stops cheating is good in my book. Although I can imagine that these ranked server files will be leaked eventually.

[Calneon]

Even if they were you couldn't host a ranked server with an unverified host.

[Vicious Horizon]

Are you all missing the main problem? No Mods?

What made BF2 so great, in my opinion it was things like Project Reality and player balanced stuff =/


(And afaik, unranked servers will not be available either)

[Bloo]

Quote from PCG Magazine, March

FAIL GAME WON'T HAVE MODES OR PUBLIC DEDICATED SERVERS

DICe will not be making the dedicated server files for Battlefield: Bad Company 2 available to players. Citing "security and integrity of our game and dedicated servers",they'll lease the use of dedicated servers to the players. Locking down the serer files means no multiplayer mods.

DICE previously took advantage of Modern WankFail 2's lack of dedicated servers to all its players and continue the tradition of the ultimate FPS experience.


WHY DO YOU HATE PC GAMERS!?

What page is this quote on? I want to see for myself to believe it.

EDIT: Also on mod support, I don't think anyone expects BC2 to be a massive mod platform. Battlefield 3 will be hopefully.

[Calneon]

Yeah BC2 was a console port, hopefully BF3 will be the true successor.

[Vicious Horizon]

What page is this quote on? I want to see for myself to believe it.

EDIT: Also on mod support, I don't think anyone expects BC2 to be a massive mod platform. Battlefield 3 will be hopefully.

Uh, it's in the subscriber forward-edition, but it's in those mini-news bits on the right side of the 2 page spread if you know what I mean, cba to find the mag

[Target]

Hopefully this is just the base for BF3 and hopefully this will wake IW up and force them to make a decent game like CoD4

[Bloo]

So is anyone else up for a session of BC2 together at some point? We must have at least 4 people in the beta who are willing to play it with other members of ATK. It isn't a great game but I reckon with a group of us working together it'll be a fun time.

Or you know, we could just be a gaming community that games but fails on the community bit.

[ez64]

I would if I had tried it but wont be 2 weeks till I get a chance and I imagine release wont be to far away by then.

[Colonel Mitch]

I WILL if chalex gives me the key to use..... lol

[Chalex4]

The key was given to ez64 then Target. As ez64 said he didn't actually have time to play it, he graciously said we could give it to someone else. Target's seemed like he wanted to play it the most :p.

Unfortunately, the key seems to have already been used. I certainly haven't used it, and ez64 said he hasn't either, so I've just assumed that Play cocked up and gave me the same code as someone else. I've requested another one and they will hopefully be giving me a new one tomorrow for Target to use!!

[Bloo]

Right, guess I'll wait until the full-game before we all start playing together then. :p

[Target]

You made need to upgrade your pc bloo, this game will not play on my pc atm even on low settings due to fail processor, however I am hopfully going to try it out tomorrow at mitches and ill give him the account details so he can play it

[Bloo]

You made need to upgrade your pc bloo, this game will not play on my pc atm even on low settings due to fail processor, however I am hopfully going to try it out tomorrow at mitches and ill give him the account details so he can play it

It runs fine on my laptop if I turn down all the settings. The only thing that annoys me about it is the fucking blue tint effect, yes yes, its a snow map... but bloody hell does it piss me off, all the colour is drained and washed out.

[D_K_Head]

how many times have you said that now?

But yeah, we need to have a get-together... though it would be a lot easier if the friends list worked, and the server browser didn't suck such a large quantity of balls...

[Bloo]

how many times have you said that now?

But yeah, we need to have a get-together... though it would be a lot easier if the friends list worked, and the server browser didn't suck such a large quantity of balls...

A lot of times, but I feel fine now because PCgamer voiced the same opinion in their podcast, so someone agrees with me. XD

And yes, the slow interface is a pain, but we should at least try.

[Target]

Played it at mitch's tonite and it was pretty good, the weapon system is still pretty fail hopefully they will make it a bit better in release version :S

[Chalex4]

What do you mean, "fail"? If you mean accuracy and the time it takes to kill someone, it's probably best you try out some hardcore servers where it doesn't take an entire clip to kill someone.

I think that the weapon upgrade trees are pretty fun, but it is a bit lame that some of the starting weapons aren't very good. It's still possible to kill people though!

[Mr.Big]

well i agree with target, because the weapons system is "sloppy" compared to COD:6

[Isphera]

What do you mean, "fail"? If you mean accuracy and the time it takes to kill someone, it's probably best you try out some hardcore servers where it doesn't take an entire clip to kill someone.

I think that the weapon upgrade trees are pretty fun, but it is a bit lame that some of the starting weapons aren't very good. It's still possible to kill people though!

Agree with this.

With the weapon system, it may not be as easy to understand as CoD (although seemed pretty straight forward to me and most other people I've asked), but it gets you more weapons that you will actually use quicker, since it depends on achieved score by class and not overall level. For example, in the Battlefield games, I have almost always exclusively played as a Medic, so most of the other weapons are useless, since I can't use them. Therefore, this system gets me better guns quicker. With CoD, I almost always use Assault Rifles and launchers as my setup, other than for the challenges for XP boosts, thus making all other weapon unlocks practically useless for me (unless its a very small map and I use a shotgun and machine pistol instead), thus wasting time.

I therefore believe the BC2 not to be 'sloppy' as you have said Biggy, but I see it as very efficient and actually better than CoD, since it rewards you for doing well at a certain role quicker. Obviously, for those that change and vary roles more than someone with schizophrenia changes personality, then your at a disadvantage, but BC2 is designed around squad play where everyone is good at a certain role, so by finding your role, you can progress quicker. It wouldn't surprise me one bit though if they gave you unlock points for the other trees once you maxed out one of them, to give you some flexibility down the line.

[Colonel Mitch]

Agree with this.

With the weapon system, it may not be as easy to understand as CoD (although seemed pretty straight forward to me and most other people I've asked), but it gets you more weapons that you will actually use quicker, since it depends on achieved score by class and not overall level. For example, in the Battlefield games, I have almost always exclusively played as a Medic, so most of the other weapons are useless, since I can't use them. Therefore, this system gets me better guns quicker. With CoD, I almost always use Assault Rifles and launchers as my setup, other than for the challenges for XP boosts, thus making all other weapon unlocks practically useless for me (unless its a very small map and I use a shotgun and machine pistol instead), thus wasting time.

I therefore believe the BC2 not to be 'sloppy' as you have said Biggy, but I see it as very efficient and actually better than CoD, since it rewards you for doing well at a certain role quicker. Obviously, for those that change and vary roles more than someone with schizophrenia changes personality, then your at a disadvantage, but BC2 is designed around squad play where everyone is good at a certain role, so by finding your role, you can progress quicker. It wouldn't surprise me one bit though if they gave you unlock points for the other trees once you maxed out one of them, to give you some flexibility down the line.


We were referring to the way you fire directly into people and it doesnt register sometimes and when it does register they dont die after a silly amount of bullets. Also the way the game, like other BF titles, seems to randomly select when to give headshots.

The unlock system im personally not particularly fond of but at the end of the day im fine with it.

[D_K_Head]

The weapons are fine if you fire in burst or singleshot...

I personally favor the type 88 sniper with the x4 scope. Two or three hits means a kill, and that's a LOT faster than an assault rifle.

[Bloo]

My main problem is that the starting weapons are terrible but as soon as you get an unlock, killing people becomes so much easier. It does mean each gun does "feel" different, but only because the feeling that it takes 2 seconds to kill someone rather than 6 seconds.

[Isphera]

Just unlocked the M249 for medic on the console - I was top for three rounds running :D Ended up with 6 dogtags as well :D

[Target]

Sometimes it just completely doesnt register you shooting people and the rpg and grenade lauchers work very randomly, like some time the rpg just sort of flops like 20yards....maybe this is deliberate to make it seem more real, but when theres an apc in front of me i want it to die not laugh at fail rockets
:( The sniper has improve slightly coz u can actually kill people with one or 2 shots

[Vicious Horizon]

M249!? Please tell me it's the Para Scoped version, if it is I'm sold..

[Isphera]

Ironsights, but that didn't stop me headshot sniping people.

[VoX]

M249!? Please tell me it's the Para Scoped version, if it is I'm sold..


PR has a scoped M249.....

[Isphera]

But PR, if I am honest, isn't that great IMO.

[Bloo]

But PR, if I am honest, isn't that great IMO.

VoX got pwned.

[Colonel Mitch]

But PR, if I am honest, isn't that great IMO.


VoX got pwned.

/agree

[D_K_Head]

i'm with vox actually... the scoped m249 is awesome...

oh and VH, you can attach a x4 scope to your MG, if you so desire.

[VoX]

But PR, if I am honest, isn't that great IMO.

But does Bad Company 2 have a Chinook?

[Target]

Does PR have exploding everything?

[D_K_Head]

I think one map DOES have exploding everything...