Naming! TheATKReview, ATKReport or ATKCrits ?

[Chalex4]

If you were at i40, you'll now know that ATK is preparing itself to start reviewing products and games properly!

Shortly we'll have a site up for it with a team of reviewers behind this new ATK venture. We already have the links with the product manufacturers, so it won't have a problem getting new products in to test.

However, we need a name! ATKReviews.com is taken, so I've created this list of possible options:


TheATKReview.com - don't think we should go for because atkreviews.com is a pron site
ATKReport.com
ATKCrits.com
TheATKTest.com
ATKAssess.com
ATKStars.com
ATKCritic.com
ATKJudge.com
ATKJourey.com
ATKVerdict.com
ATKTrial.com

My favourites are the top half of the list.

If you particularly like one of the above please say so, or post your ideas below!

I know Paper Tiger, Vox and Target want to be part of this but who else would? We're going to need a mix of visual and written ones.

[Chazlene]

I'm up for reviewing and shit, ATKcrits.com is my favourite option.

[VoX]

I like ATKCrits and ATKVerdict.


Yeah, still up for doing this, should have DSLR soon so fi we get regular stuff would look into constructing a light box for professional quality pics.

[Isphera]

TheATKReview.com - don't think we should go for because atkreviews.com is a pron site

Thank you for this, I will be using this resource.

Back on topic, I like ATKReport.com or TheATKReport.com.

[Chazlene]

I like ATKCrits and ATKVerdict..

Actually come to think of it I also really like "TheATKverdict.com".

[nikoli]

id be happy to review racing games and stuff :)

[Target]

I like the top one but would be lols if they accidently go to pron

[Calneon]

I lol'd at the porn one.

Does it have to have ATK in the url? Just sounds wrong. Something like www.TheCritReview.com would be better IMO, then just say a partnership of ATK.

I'd be willing to write reviews, and i could do editing and 3D work for the videos.

[nikoli]

pretty shit one at that :/

[Vicious Horizon]

ATKReport sticks out to me -

I'd be interested in doing some writing work, but noone would want my ugly mug on a video :P

[Isphera]

ATKReport sticks out to me -

I'd be interested in doing some writing work, but noone would want my ugly mug on a video :P

I want Report as well, mainly because I'll copy Steven Colbert and make it a soft t. And I'm sure this wouldn't be a problem, but will there be an exclusivity thing for this or am I free to post my stuff on AddendaProvided as well?

[Chazlene]

And I'm sure this wouldn't be a problem, but will there be an exclusivity thing for this or am I free to post my stuff on AddendaProvided as well?

Yeah I was wondering about this as well, would it be ok for me to post whatever I do, if anything, on That's My Hammer?

Also Chalex, how were you thinking of doing the actual site? Just have it as a blog layout which we all have admin accounts on?

[Isphera]

Have you actually posted anything on your blog? I checked last week and the last couple posts were from July :D

[Chazlene]

Have you actually posted anything on your blog? I checked last week and the last couple posts were from July :D

I'm gonna use it more when I go back to uni, when I'll actually be producing more art and shit and looking up designers, plus I intended to use it mainly as a portfolio, but I haven't properly worked out how to make it display thumbnails the way I want yet :p

[Isphera]

Fair enough :D. I don't know why I'm critising, AddendaProvided hasn't been a beacon of activity either :D Gonna have my festival reviews soon though and NFL starts in a couple weeks, so should bump up a bit then.

[Darkeagle]

I Would actually be up for this, i was thinking of maybe doing reviews or new albums or music gigs ? Obviously wouldn't be often for the gig reviews, but would mix up the reviews a bit and make for a wider following? Also i think ATKVerdict looks good to me

[Isphera]

Gigs won't work so well, but albums could, although it's all subjective and will provide polarizing reviews for some stuff, e.g I would give any Justin Bieber album a 'Go Hear It!' rating of 0/10, but Chalex would give it 8 or 9 simply on the fact he is under 18.

[Snerfs]

Personally, none of them stand out to me, especially "ATKverdict.com", sounds Russian. In Soviet Russia... (You see where this is going...)

Having ATK in there makes it especially difficult to think of a web domain that sounds good tbf. I suppose I could grow to like "TheATKtest"


I also think it'd be a great idea to feature a wide variety of media, from new and upcoming music albums/games/movies, even TV shows, and recent world news maybe. Personally, I don't think I'd be active enough to post such things, but that's my own personal opinion.

[Colonel Mitch]

If it has to have ATK in it, ATKverdict i think sounds by far the best.

On another note I'd love to do some professinal reviews - i really enjoyed doing the L4D review (http://www.atkcommunity.com/threads/1619-Review-Left-4-Dead)i did a few years back :)

[Isphera]

And I my WoW review (http://www.atkcommunity.com/threads/1650-World-of-Warcraft-Wrath-of-the-Lich-King-Review?highlight=Wrath+review).

[Vicious Horizon]

And I my many ancient games

[D_K_Head]

ATKAssess.com

...hehe...

I'd be up for writing up something, or knocking up a video to go with a spoken review, etc. Give me a shout if you're still looking, Chal.

It actually seems like a good idea. I mean, most of us have written reviews or articles up before seperately... Putting them all in the same place (that isn't a forum) would be kind of cool.

[Colonel Mitch]

I did a video guide in 3 parts on youtube for forza 3 to show oric the customisation. That was fun.

Wouldnt mind doing video reviews of stuff

[Toasty-Sloth]

i really really want to be part of this :)

ive done reviews before and got mostly good feedback.

I'd do fighting games, shooting games, "casual/indie" games and puzzle games :)

EDIT: Oh and i think ATKVerdict sounds good to me :)

[Target]

I was thinking about this today and anything really with ATk in the title kinda didnt sound right...can you not make it .atk or something
I think you should decide on a name chalex it will be a lot easier :D

[Marshy]

theatkverdict.com this i like

[Isphera]

OK, following a conversation with Chalex last night, that some of you were present for, I have decided to withdraw participation from this project.

Essentially, it revolves around the exclusivity of the stuff we write and where we are allowed and not allowed to post it in regard to our blogs. What it boils down to is that if I write stuff for this site, I would not be able to have it on Addenda Provided, only a copied paragraph and a link to the article on the ATK site. In order to make this appealing to me, I would need a complete parallel for content, because AddendaProvided is my main content outlet, and if that has to be compromised in order to provide content to another site over Addenda, then I cannot be a part of it.

The other thing is the idea I had behind Addenda was that I would literally just transcribe what is in my head, so it may not always be clean or PG or PC, but it would be an honest, independent opinion, which is what I believe I would lose if I joined this venture. Nik said most of the arguments last night and it revolved around the procurement of the review code from companies and what it may entail to begin with or be part of the agreement of the code, and regardless of if that is the case or not, I would prefer to remove any form of influence of that on my writing so I can continue to create as many awesome idioms as I can to describe truly terrible products and then chase them out of town, over being asked to dial it down in order to appease sponsors.

I'm guessing this will be quoted and I will get a couple posts below saying I'm wrong or that I haven't thought about something, etc. However, unlike what I usually do on these forums, I'm actually not going to respond. I've pretty much made my mind up on this, and unless something significant changes that appeals me back to this idea (free games a week early is not one of them), then I won't be reading this thread again.

[Colonel Mitch]

I'm guessing this will be quoted and I will get a couple posts below saying I'm wrong or that I haven't thought about something, etc. However, unlike what I usually do on these forums, I'm actually not going to respond. I've pretty much made my mind up on this, and unless something significant changes that appeals me back to this idea (free games a week early is not one of them), then I won't be reading this thread again.

Your wrong. You havent thought about anything.

[Chalex4]

That's fine Oric, don't know why you needed to be quite so grumpy about it though :p. Let me remind you all that this review part of ATK is not going to be an easy ride. All reviewers will have deadlines to meet and it must be to a very high quality. I think we'll even go the route of having everything proof-read to begin with.

Obviously if it all pays off then ATK will benefit hugely in terms of activity, but I hope you're all dedicated to this idea as much as I am.

Tonight I hope to get started on the new site. I'm currently very up in the air with the name. It NEEDS to be part of ATK as we are the community behind it, but I don't want a rubbish name. I'm sure I'll think of something that fits the bill.

[Calneon]

OK, following a conversation with Chalex last night, that some of you were present for, I have decided to withdraw participation from this project.

Essentially, it revolves around the exclusivity of the stuff we right and where we are allowed and not allowed to post it in regard to our blogs. What it boils down to is that if I write stuff for this site, I would not be able to have it on Addenda Provided, only a copied paragraph and a link to the article on the ATK site. In order to make this appealing to me, I would need a complete parallel for content, because AddendaProvided is my main content outlet, and if that has to be compromised in order to provide content to another site over Addenda, then I cannot be a part of it.

The other thing is the idea I had behind Addenda was that I would literally just transcribe what is in my head, so it may not always be clean or PG or PC, but it would be an honest, independent opinion, which is what I believe I would lose if I joined this venture. Nik said most of the arguments last night and it revolved around the procurement of the review code from companies and what it may entail to begin with or be part of the agreement of the code, and regardless of if that is the case or not, I would prefer to remove any form of influence of that on my writing so I can continue to create as many awesome idioms as I can to describe truly terrible products and then chase them out of town, over being asked to dial it down in order to appease sponsors.

I'm guessing this will be quoted and I will get a couple posts below saying I'm wrong or that I haven't thought about something, etc. However, unlike what I usually do on these forums, I'm actually not going to respond. I've pretty much made my mind up on this, and unless something significant changes that appeals me back to this idea (free games a week early is not one of them), then I won't be reading this thread again.
That's perfectly fine Oric, it's your choice.

[Vicious Horizon]

stuff we right and where

You're wrong :p

[Chazlene]

I didn't actually read his post since it was so long, but is this still relevant?

http://www.atkcommunity.com/gallery/images/3/1_oric_demands.jpg

[nikoli]

when is it not relevant?

[Paper Tiger]

Finally have internet back...

My opinion - I quite like TheATKReport as a name, because it's our report on items we review/test. Don't know why I like it, but it just personally sounds best to me. I can just imagine "Welcome to another edition of TheATKReport, this week/month/time (delete as appropriate) we are reviewing/testing/looking at _______"

And as for what we're reviewing/testing, I think we should mainly focus on PC related things for now, until we have more of a rep for it, then we can move onto different things. So, stuff like PC hardware, peripherals (speakers, mice, keyboards etc), accessories (laptop cases and stuff like that).

Something I think we'll have over other review sites is that we will give a genuine, honest opinion that people will understand as it will be delivered by average (in some cases XD) people who are not experts and start talking about the really technical stuff. Doesn't mean we can't add bits like that in as well as (bit of extra information sort-of-thing).

Anyway... Let's get this sorted 'cos I'm really looking forward to starting this out! :D

/Paper out

[VoX]

Oh, ordered DSLR last night and also found out about what I have access to at school; studio lights and a studio DSLR (can't remember the name but it was a Canon, pretty large, would say 5D but that's too expensive for the school) along with a rather large assortment of lenses. So any photos that need to be done of products, I've pretty much got it covered :D

[Toasty-Sloth]

Your wrong. You havent thought about anything.

i lol'd

[Chazlene]

Just had a sudden brainwave, how about we call the review site 'The ATK Magazine' or 'The ATK Mag' for example? I thought this might be a good idea since other sites sort of are designed to look like newspapers or magazines, such as The First Person Observer.

[Vicious Horizon]

Good call Chaz - Tbh, we need to be different, ATK has never done conventional very well :D

[Toasty-Sloth]

I changed my mind i want it to be called the atkcrits....

our mascot can be the soldier saying CUH-RIT. Thats the only reason why..

[Chalex4]

I haven't forgotten about this, but am still thinking about names. It needs to have ATK in, and sound as good as it can. ATKCrits sounds cool, but google won't like it... so yeah.

I should come to a decision soonish as I want to get this started before uni. Any more ideas from you lot would be awesome though!

EDIT: Just saw your post chaz, but I think that's if we try to go down that road, then we'll start having to post stuff like news as well. We can't take too much on if we want to be good at the reviewing.

[Target]

I think the Atkreports is acutally quite good, they way Tiger suggested, but tbh Chalex HURRY THE FUCK UP!!!! + Video ty gl+hf

[Paper Tiger]

BUMP

Any more progress on this? Or has it become another victim of ATK and has been forgotten?

[Colonel Mitch]

Its chalex, so of course its been forgotten.

[Paper Tiger]

Haha.

Do people want to start organising things regardless of the name?

[Calneon]

He told me he's too busy working on the i40 video.

[Colonel Mitch]

He told me he's too busy working on the i40 video.

Yes... i40 video.......

[Chalex4]

The current status on this is that we're going to do it, but not originally as I said in this thread. I've decided that making a new name and site would effectively split the community. It may work well for a little while, but after a time people will end up choosing one over the other.

This is why I'd like to have everything on this ATK site, but the homepage would need a total redesign on a new CMS. I'm leaning towards Wordpress/Joomla at the moment, but haven't decided yet. I'm not talking about a slight colour change either, this would be something completely new. Doing it this way will allow us to have the homepage as an accumulation of everything ATK, including our reviews.

If you want to compare this idea to something, it'd be http://www.avforums.com/ . Ours will look about a million times better though :).