Joking or not, as far as I see it, and as you should know, attempting to pursuade me in changing my mind or guilting me into it just doesn't work. Best thing to do - hope that they don't shift it.
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Joking or not, as far as I see it, and as you should know, attempting to pursuade me in changing my mind or guilting me into it just doesn't work. Best thing to do - hope that they don't shift it.
Out of interest oric, who is playing you want to see, and what time does the last band you want to see finish?Quote:
Originally Posted by Oricalcos
Is it you driving that's the issue, or the actual time spent travelling?
LoL lets just kidnap Oric and his pc :D
Well it looks like its going to Telford and is going to be massive, most people on Tek9 have seen this a good thing, the event that Stoneleigh should have been, tbh I think stoneleigh was really good just because everyone was in the same hall. And everyone thinks that having it at a more central location is a great thing. Personally I can't wait :D
The whole of the main stage essentially. Ends about 11ish. And to answer the inevitable next question. It's not the getting there at 1am I object to, it's the sheer effort and time of spending four hours driving back from there and then back just for two days - one of which I'll be completely whacked from the day before anyway, as well as wasting EAS (which would essentially be turn up, set up, go back home)Quote:
Originally Posted by Colonel Mitch
Actual time, money and effort spent over the weekend, plus the need to actually have some spare money to set up bills at house on Sept. 1st.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicious Horizon
Whilst in absence of this Reading situation, I would normally be in favour of it, isn't Telford a massive room as well? In fairness, I think there is enough of us to possibly get a box or go into one of these smaller areas, with only say 100 people in. One of the main reasons I disliked stoneleigh was that everyone was in a huge room. Whilst not a dealbreaker on this, I believe it ruined the social aspect that smaller areas such as the ones in Newbury had.Quote:
Originally Posted by Target
EDIT - @Mitch, full list is:
MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE
THIRTY SECONDS TO MARS (Rumoured to be calling it quits afterwards)
THE OFFSPRING
DEFTONES
RISE AGAINST
BRING ME THE HORIZON
NEW FOUND GLORY
THE BLACKOUT
ARCHITECTS
SUB FOCUS (LIVE)
EDIT2 - @Mitch again - If there was any doubt in me coming anyway, if it does move to Telford, me coming to Newcastle is pretty much set in stone.
I can only agree that at times it was a bit loud at Stoneleigh but generally it was good, although I do like the social aspect of Newbury, but if we don't try we won't know, it could be brilliant
Turns out there is a scenario where everyone's happy, thanks to Mitch pointing out that me going to EAS for half an hour was essentially pointless and optional.Quote:
Originally Posted by Target
So, if it does change to Telford, I will actually turn up, just not until Saturday - yes, I miss all the EAS banter and the first day, but I get to make my own entrance, and I'll be there pretty early anyway, so I won't miss out too much else. Only thing I may miss is if the SC2 tournament starts on Friday, but tbf, that was just for the banter anyway :S
that's more like it :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Oricalcos
http://www.downloadfestival.co.uk/2011/lineup/
awesome lineup should clearly just go to that instead.
I am - albeit for some of the time, as I have exams that weekend as well. And Sonisphere.Quote:
Originally Posted by ez64
Sonisphere lineup is better this year, METALLICA!!!!!! So I'm going there.Quote:
Originally Posted by ez64
But I would like to see System and Rob Zombie too.
Yay Oric, well done mitch... although you miss the first couple of days, you get to meet the zombiefied atk on saturday :D
Just been on the multiplay website looking at the extra info shiz, there sooo much to do, looks sweet...anyone for bowling???
Was going as well but all my friends decided to go rock royalty, ive got better things to spend #380 on other than the ticket itself :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Hutch
Would be nice to see thin lizzy live as well, I know they are not thin lizzy without phil lynott but im never going to get the chance to see that.
yeah its been confirmed now, i43 is @ telford (not that it was really obvious anyway)
I don't understand people who buy vip packages, its paying for some minor extra privileges including a pre set up tent. My friend and I going have got guest passes for the bar there anyway. I doubt we'll use them unless we get mega bored on thursdayQuote:
Originally Posted by ez64
its more the separate area and bar they wanted but its still silly money for what you get.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hutch
I think they're target at older festval goers who have a bit more money to spend on things like this and get away from the hub-bub of the main bars.Quote:
Originally Posted by ez64
So those people are therefore grouchy old men? :P Any kind of class system on anything like transport or festivals where only money gets you more is bad, trains especially. Man when the revolution comes, no more goddamn first class train carriages, piss me right off. And VIP in clubs.... most pointless ineffectual thing ever. Be a common man!
What? If somebody pays more money they should get a better product, it's the same for everything. It's win:win, rich people get a better experience because they can afford it, and the seller gets more revenue because they can charge different prices for different people. Nowhere does the poor guy lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hutch
What about the over crowding of standard class carriages on trains, while the first class carriages remain empty? The people paying less are penalised by not paying more as they do not get the full service they have paid for Ie a seat. Also with Festival or concert tickets, if tickets are reserved for a higher price range, that limits the amount of people who can pay the lowest rate, forcing some people to buy more expensive tickets if their price bracket is more expensive or to go without. Why not just equalise the quality of the product or have a ballot to decide who gets what? If there is a high demand for the lower price range why should a few rich people be allowed to enjoy a service more just because of their wealth when more people could enjoy it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Calneon
By saying "Money = better standard" you effectively deny people access based on their wealth, which is classist behaviour.
However: As people have earned their money they have the right to spend it as they please, and some things do have a higher value cost, which means they should have a higher price. But should someone pay more money for medicine that works better, offering a better life to a rich person?
And with regards to a better product...... does it always equal one?
The poor man does lose.
I agree with most of that and so do the people who decide on these sort of things probably, but they're still implemented in order to make money... so getting rid of them is probably just not pratical since in many cases they're needed just for the organisers/clubs or whatever to stay afloat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hutch
That's the basis our whole society works on, if that wasn't the case it would be communism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hutch
No, it's not communism, providing access to people is a socialist idea, you can't just tar every idea with a red communism brush to make it seem bad. I'm not suggesting redistributing wealth or setting up a state or everyone owning the means of production or free access to anything. Learn the difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calneon
Lol Hutch - Y U SO MAD???
Something about Jeezus. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Colonel Mitch
Yeah he's right, some christian academic theologian, with his arguments to prove the existence of an afterlife have made me hate religion somewhat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calneon
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this thread supposed to be about the move to Telford? Instead I just see nerd rage probably down to not being able to afford those higher luxuries...
I partly agree, you see this with big sporting events now where true fans that follow teams week in week out can;t afford to go to finals as the ticket prices are just too high. But if you have the more money you get better shit, just a fact of life.
And pro tip if your on the train and first class is empty just go sit in there, usually the ticket people don't bother moving you if its empty
so i read 1 or 2 posts as im lazy and yeh looks like Oric hasnt learnt that reading is shit .... and people havnt learnt that its gna be a sweat fest get your ass's down/up too the venue will be pro all will have fun and we will all loose weight through sweating massive amounts .... and challex everything wont die or expload the people their are nice enough to respect your property unless their polish and throw drink on your keyboard
think thats my longest post evarrrr
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShedBOy
http://forums.multiplay.co.uk/insomn...e-introduction
Click the link to see video.
Can someone please do some filming at i43 and then release it as the official ATK i43 video before Chalex can....
I already asked if chalex or someone with a proper camera can film stuff and I'll make a video out of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hutch
Chalex said yes but im suspicious he will not agree at the time.
He will steal the films and take them away...far..far...away!