i43 Clan Box?

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Originally Posted by Calneon

At i40, did you interact with anybody outside of the two rows we had?

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Yeah I did, actually. I had a couple of mates on the floor below and there were plenty of people who popped in at the side of our row that I had a chat to.

Besides, the feel of being out in the open with everyone else was good, I don't personally see the point in segregating ourselves from the other 3000 people going for the sake of a lightswitch and better Aircon..

The rooms are tiny, the only reason I wanted a clanbox in the first place was because I thought it was going to be a good 100 people in the room who are all part of clans, not a small room a whole corridor away from the event.

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Arguments For and Against clanboxes:

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We can turn lights on and off
No CoD kids screaming
Aircon
Windows

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No Advertising
Little to no Atmosphere
We don't know what it'll be like
Less people around
No reason to get free stuff from Sponsors
Further away from everything
Detracts from the whole 'big-LAN' point of the iSeries

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Originally Posted by Vicious Horizon

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No Advertising
Little to no Atmosphere
We don't know what it'll be like
Less people around
No reason to get free stuff from Sponsors
Further away from everything
Detracts from the whole 'big-LAN' point of the iSeries

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How do we not get advertising? So what we are in a clan box? We still have shirts to be seen around the venue, and last I checked, most of us are entering the big tournaments and have a chance at going onto the KO stages of at least one. And as said, we can always have banners and projectors outside the clan box. In terms of getting things from sponsors, I think the primary concern should be minimising the costs of us going, such as a subsidy on T-Shirts over products, as this makes it easier for us to spend on the weekend, as well as being cheaper for the company (if one is in place to sponsor us).

The atmosphere of the main hall is warped by the size from the cosy, social aspect at NRC to an imposing mass pushing you towards the people your with and causing it to be less social with the rest of the LAN. With the clan box, whilst you have less people around, it's all people you know, and when are you gonna go rolling around like a gaming prostitute looking for someone to play with. The clan boxes are located above the two halls, and everything is collected together, so the 'not being close' aspect is a flawed argument.

In fairness, since this is going to be a new move, you don't actually know what the huge halls will be like either, but having seen videos and spoken to people with clan boxes, we have a good idea as to what we will get from it. Sure, the size might be bigger, and (an addendum to the person point), we may even be sharing with another clan, so your worries of 'OMG I cant speak to people outside of ATK that I'll never speak to again' should be laid to rest.

And on the 'big-feel' - if that was the idea for the iSeries, then why would they offer the clan boxes? I believe that the idea of an iSeries should be to attend as a group of friends, a clan and/or community, and enjoy playing games with them with the added benefit of meeting IRL as well as doing IRL activities such as BBQ's, Bowling, putting people in bins, tackling the people with the most expensive camera equipment to the ground etc. With the clan boxes, it gives us a more pleasant, controlable environment to do this, as well as get away with things that might not be allowed in the main hall due to the other people.

I am a bit dismayed though, as you have greatly simplified the arguments in favor of the clan boxes. Hopefully this passage should give people a better understanding of why we should take the clan box option. I believe that we are at a size now where such a move could benefit us greatly.

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Originally Posted by Vicious Horizon

Yeah I did, actually. I had a couple of mates on the floor below and there were plenty of people who popped in at the side of our row that I had a chat to.

Besides, the feel of being out in the open with everyone else was good, I don't personally see the point in segregating ourselves from the other 3000 people going for the sake of a lightswitch and better Aircon..

The rooms are tiny, the only reason I wanted a clanbox in the first place was because I thought it was going to be a good 100 people in the room who are all part of clans, not a small room a whole corridor away from the event.

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Arguments For and Against clanboxes:

FOR
We can turn lights on and off
No CoD kids screaming
Aircon
Windows

AGAINST
No Advertising
Little to no Atmosphere
We don't know what it'll be like
Less people around
No reason to get free stuff from Sponsors
Further away from everything
Detracts from the whole 'big-LAN' point of the iSeries

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* katakuna likes this

If your not google, don't act like you know everything

Target, who were you talking to?

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Originally Posted by Calneon

What do you mean? You're still in the same room as 36 other people. Is that not enough for you?

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No it's not good enough. I can remember having so much fun at i34 and i37 due to the fact we were in a massive room, with the conga lines, chanting, throwing stuff about, etc. I seriously think if we were in a clan box we'd feel isolated from the rest of the event and end up getting bored a lot. Plus we might as well have a lan at someone's house if you'd prefer to be in a small room just by ourselves.

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Originally Posted by Vicious Horizon

Arguments For and Against clanboxes:

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We can turn lights on and off
No CoD kids screaming (except Target)
Better Aircon
Windows
Security
Chance to bring thinks like maybe alcohol in

AGAINST
Less people around (isolation)
Slightly (1 Corridor) Further away from everything
Detracts from the whole 'big-LAN' point of the iSeries

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I've tidied VH's For and against up with a significantly less biased view.

The No Advertising and Little to no Atmosphere are both completely up to us. Out 2 rows at Newbury were where the majority (im not saying all) of the ATK banter happened. Obliviously you can still go into the LAN and see people there or bring them back to our room, and the same with advertsisng.

As for We don't know what it'll be like, I dont think its fair to put I DONT LIKE CHANGE as a reason... weve never even been tho this venue before so you could put that on FOR and AGAISNT if you want.

As i said before I dont mind either way, but that post by VH was so incredibly biased I thought I should tidy it up :P

group masturbation sesh in clan box? is that another for?

You know what, fuck it, have the clan-box.

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Originally Posted by Vicious Horizon

ofc it was incredibly biased, I don't want the clanbox, I'm entitled to show my opinion in any way that I want ;)
And the revised list you've made is biased towards keeping the clan box, if you were aiming for neutrality.

/margh

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How is it biased towards having the clanbox?

Lol at my ninja-edit the second you quote that post.

Same reason my post was biased?

tbh i dont care il sit anywhere aslong as its not next to DK or neer Dk or even if i can smell DK in the building ... is DK dead im assuming so

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Originally Posted by CILLIT BANG

group masturbation sesh in clan box? is that another for?

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Good point, might have to change my mind then.

There are as many points for a clan box as there are against one. It's just difference in opinion.

When I was at i33 with just Cal and Trig I was sitting next to some randomer and had an absolutely awesome time with him over the weekend playing a bunch of games. We still chat on Steam every now and again. So, just because you don't chat to the 2980 other people, doesn't mean others won't.

You can probably tell, but my opinion now has most definitely swayed to being in the main hall.

Also, although the clan boxes aren't bad, I absolutely loved how everyone really knew there was an ATK presence at i40. You can see 20 people sat in red shirts a mile off, and it's great promo. Sponsors simply wouldn't get as good a deal if were were hid away in a room.

Finally though, ATK is a community. We are open to everyone and need to appear that way. If we're sat in the main room, we're a hell of a lot more approachable. Anyway, didn't we meet ez64 that way? If we sat in a clan box that year, he wouldn't be a member!

BOOM

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Originally Posted by Chalex4

There are as many points for a clan box as there are against one. It's just difference in opinion.

When I was at i33 with just Cal and Trig I was sitting next to some randomer and had an absolutely awesome time with him over the weekend playing a bunch of games. We still chat on Steam every now and again. So, just because you don't chat to the 2980 other people, doesn't mean others won't.

You can probably tell, but my opinion now has most definitely swayed to being in the main hall.

Also, although the clan boxes aren't bad, I absolutely loved how everyone really knew there was an ATK presence at i40. You can see 20 people sat in red shirts a mile off, and it's great promo. Sponsors simply wouldn't get as good a deal if were were hid away in a room.

Finally though, ATK is a community. We are open to everyone and need to appear that way. If we're sat in the main room, we're a hell of a lot more approachable. Anyway, didn't we meet ez64 that way? If we sat in a clan box that year, he wouldn't be a member!

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Have a poll when all the information comes out, then see.

You mad VH? . .. . its pretty unlikely we will even get a clan box as other teams/groups will get there first....not bothered either way i43 will be epic

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Originally Posted by Target

You mad VH? . .. . its pretty unlikely we will even get a clan box as other teams/groups will get there first....not bothered either way i43 will be epic

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no u

Hahaa nice one guys. At the end of the day, they're called clan boxes for a reason. The real community vibe is going on in the main hall. Who would really want to miss that?!

No clan box it is then :)

now we gta masturbate in public ;(

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Originally Posted by katakuna

No clan box it is then :)

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I still say have a poll once all the information comes out. From what I gather, if some of the boxes turned out to be about 100-150 people in a seperate area as well, I know at least two people on the 'OMG Clan Box - no plox' would change their mind. Even it stays as it looks, I'd still say a poll just to make sure.

Great hall was good for all the winners still up at 4-8am which were pretty few and far between so we just made teams on css with each other :)

£10 extra per ticket for a clanbox. Yeah, main hall it is.

^ - Truth has spoken.

£10 extra? Seriously WTF. As much as I want it, it's not worth that.

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Originally Posted by VoX

£10 extra per ticket for a clanbox. Yeah, main hall it is.

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Need an apt multiplay money grabbing picture :D

If we all bring one of these on the day though you can have the clanbox seat for free,

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Originally Posted by Oricalcos

£10 extra? Seriously WTF. As much as I want it, it's not worth that.

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Although I didn't really want to be in one anyway, I totally agree. £5 would be reasonable, but on top of an already pricey ticket it's a shame they have to charge so much.

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Originally Posted by Chalex4

Although I didn't really want to be in one anyway, I totally agree. £5 would be reasonable, but on top of an already pricey ticket it's a shame they have to charge so much.

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