Its max 16 players isnt it 8v8, u can't even lean!!!! and basically they took pc game turn it into console game and gave the console version to pc gamers. A lot of people where looking forward to this game, the single player looks pretty good as usual, but the mp is going to be awful, gunna wait till xmas and see wot people think but i can see most people stickin to cod4 unless it gets some good reviews or there is a possibility of competitive play.