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    Erebus Mk.2 Prelim Spec and Pricing

    Thanks to Piers for helping me to draw this up.

    PLEASE NOTE:THIS HAS BEEN UPDATED - SEE BOTTOM OF PAGE 1
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    Things to consider;
    • Replacing Stock Fans on Case (Scythe)
    • Replacing Headset (Currently Creative Fatal1ty Headset - Possibly Sennheiser PC 350?)
    • How to build (Hire ATK Member/Outsider)
    • Possibility of GTX 380?
    • SSD for OS?
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    Re: Erebus Mk.2 Prelim Spec and Pricing

    £150 on a psu........
    £100 for windows.......

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    Re: Erebus Mk.2 Prelim Spec and Pricing

    Changed case following a discussion with Callum to the NZXT Lexa S.

    @ Piers - Whilst I will agree that Windows 7 will be cheaper with a student discount, I can't find the damn option on the windows site, so I will look for it later. On the PSU, I would rather have my new tech porn powered by something I can actually put some faith in over a £20, cobbled together with a rock, generically named piece of ass which looks like an alien just jizzed and puked on it at the same time.

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    Re: Erebus Mk.2 Prelim Spec and Pricing

    Your an idiot........

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    Re: Erebus Mk.2 Prelim Spec and Pricing

    How so?

    EDIT - Added things to consider list.
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    Re: Erebus Mk.2 Prelim Spec and Pricing

    Quote Originally Posted by Oricalcos View Post
    How so?

    EDIT - Added things to consider list.
    If you want a decent brand psu u can get a normal horrible over-priced transformer in a corsair like vox chalex n phantom will reccomend, and i comdemn enough. Yet you decide to more than double the price of those already over priced ones?????

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    Re: Erebus Mk.2 Prelim Spec and Pricing

    Whilst that may be the case, I would rather go with a company I trust and something that goes with my case asthetically than something that sticks out a bit and comes from a company that I'm not overtly keen on.
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    Re: Erebus Mk.2 Prelim Spec and Pricing

    Here we go again .

    First of all, Windows 7 is fantastic and the student discount is here: http://www.microsoft.com/uk/educatio...r/default.aspx . You'll need a .ac.uk address though, which no doubt you'll get next October.

    In my opinion the NZXT Lexa S case looks like the most unattractive piece of tacky plastic I've ever seen. Speaking constructively though, the door may impact cooling and just be annoying when you need to use a CD drive. I have an Antec 900 at the moment, and after initially being swung by the cool blue LEDs and perspex window, I wish I'd gone for something far more sleek and subtle. Each to their own though.

    For an 850W PSU you are spending way too much there. I'm sure it's an amazing PSU, but looking at a similar Corsair could save you some money that you could put towards something else.

    The Intel Core i7-930 doesn't exist yet, but that looks like a good choice if you have the money. Motherboard looks like a good buy as well, I like Asus. Also, spending £230 on RAM is excessive in the extreme, and although 12GB sounds cool you seriously don't need that much. Just get 4-6GB for about £100 and then put the money towards a decent monitor.

    The GTX 360 doesn't exist either yet, but as long as it's better than the 5850/5870 then that sounds like a good bet. I prefer BFG though, they have far better RMA services. Hard drive wise, I'm just not a fan of Western Digital. All my drives are Samsung F1s and I love them, go for them if you can.

    A DVD drive is a DVD drive, no further comment needed there. When it comes to choosing a sound card it's mainly down to personal preference. I'm still very keen on my Creative Sound Blaster Extreme Gamer Fatality.

    Using all the money you've saved above, you can grab the Sennheiser HD555 headphones. They go better with X-FI than Xonar, or so I'm told. I got them for xmas with a clip on mic and now I really know how crappy all my ~£50 headsets have been in the past . If you want to spend all of your budget, you could then treat yourself to a lovely 24" monitor. Or 28", that's what I did .

    Hope that helped!
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    Re: Erebus Mk.2 Prelim Spec and Pricing

    Quote Originally Posted by Chalex4 View Post
    Here we go again .

    First of all, Windows 7 is fantastic and the student discount is here: http://www.microsoft.com/uk/educatio...r/default.aspx . You'll need a .ac.uk address though, which no doubt you'll get next October.

    In my opinion the NZXT Lexa S case looks like the most unattractive piece of tacky plastic I've ever seen. Speaking constructively though, the door may impact cooling and just be annoying when you need to use a CD drive. I have an Antec 900 at the moment, and after initially being swung by the cool blue LEDs and perspex window, I wish I'd gone for something far more sleek and subtle. Each to their own though.

    For an 850W PSU you are spending way too much there. I'm sure it's an amazing PSU, but looking at a similar Corsair could save you some money that you could put towards something else.

    The Intel Core i7-930 doesn't exist yet, but that looks like a good choice if you have the money. Motherboard looks like a good buy as well, I like Asus. Also, spending £230 on RAM is excessive in the extreme, and although 12GB sounds cool you seriously don't need that much. Just get 4-6GB for about £100 and then put the money towards a decent monitor.

    The GTX 360 doesn't exist either yet, but as long as it's better than the 5850/5870 then that sounds like a good bet. I prefer BFG though, they have far better RMA services. Hard drive wise, I'm just not a fan of Western Digital. All my drives are Samsung F1s and I love them, go for them if you can.

    A DVD drive is a DVD drive, no further comment needed there. When it comes to choosing a sound card it's mainly down to personal preference. I'm still very keen on my Creative Sound Blaster Extreme Gamer Fatality.

    Using all the money you've saved above, you can grab the Sennheiser HD555 headphones. They go better with X-FI than Xonar, or so I'm told. I got them for xmas with a clip on mic and now I really know how crappy all my ~£50 headsets have been in the past . If you want to spend all of your budget, you could then treat yourself to a lovely 24" monitor. Or 28", that's what I did .

    Hope that helped!
    Before I start going through that (which I might say has been a lot more help than some of the previous posts), it's worth saying that I already have a kickass keyboard, mouse and monitor (22").

    1) Sorting out the OS with VoX (possibly) - since I'm aiming to get this for March at the very latest (owing to Mk.1 eating itself alive by the day), October is quite a bit late.

    2) Cooling is fine - has two fans up top and it does get cooling from the front - try finding some closeup or high-res images. Overall, I think it was 2x 140mm's up top and 3x120mm's (1 front, 1 side, 1 back) I'll probs replace the stock fans though, since I rememer how poor my Apevia stock ones were. And how do you not like the look of the Lexa S - I was nursing a semi just looking at it the first time. Not to mention every reviewer under the sun is creaming themselves over it.

    3) People really don't like my CPU do they

    4) I will be needing the 12GB for massive amounts of vid transcoding, as well as other stuff where high memory is required. But just found an article about what difference 12GB makes over 6GB, so will deffo read over it an evaluate.

    5) Reason for sticking with XFX and WD is the same - I have had them since forever, and have never had them go wrong ever, and I quite like to stick to what I know (as anyone who has tried to run a change or idea by me should know). XFX were in my Mesh and Erebus Mk. 1, whereas WD (AFAIK) I've had since my first every Compaq PC (1996 no less).

    6) Sound card isn't set in stone - still sorting out some details and desires (i.e. Whether to replace my headset).

    Looking over what I've put, the RAM may be cut down to improve the sound. I'm not keen on clip-on microphones, mainly because I will probably lose them/break them, but I would probably evaluate the sound of the Fatal1ty headset I have first to see if it's nessecery. The possibility is to get a SSD for the OS.

    Time to read read read
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    Re: Erebus Mk.2 Prelim Spec and Pricing

    When buying a case, if you have to replace all the fans in it to make it work properly, then it's a fail case. My tastes have changed though, I dislike all cases now that scream "LOOK AT ME - I GLOW!!!", including mine .

    What exactly are you transcoding? I've been doing a lot of work with HD video, and it's always the CPU that maxes out first. I'd go for a quality 6GB. I understand your brand loyalty, but do look at some stats on the Samsung Spinpoint F1s as they are generally made out to be the best.

    I felt the same as you regarding headsets vs headphones with a clip-on mic until recently. You see, these Sennheiser headphones are just beyond anything a headset can offer around this price point. For example, the Sennheiser PC350 headset which costs a lot more than my HD555s, doesn't produce the same quality sound that the headphones do. I don't know Sennheiser why did this, but perhaps they know that audiophiles are much more picky than gamers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chalex4 View Post
    When buying a case, if you have to replace all the fans in it to make it work properly, then it's a fail case. My tastes have changed though, I dislike all cases now that scream "LOOK AT ME - I GLOW!!!", including mine .

    What exactly are you transcoding? I've been doing a lot of work with HD video, and it's always the CPU that maxes out first. I'd go for a quality 6GB. I understand your brand loyalty, but do look at some stats on the Samsung Spinpoint F1s as they are generally made out to be the best.

    I felt the same as you regarding headsets vs headphones with a clip-on mic until recently. You see, these Sennheiser headphones are just beyond anything a headset can offer around this price point. For example, the Sennheiser PC350 headset which costs a lot more than my HD555s, doesn't produce the same quality sound that the headphones do. I don't know Sennheiser why did this, but perhaps they know that audiophiles are much more picky than gamers.
    Can a mod PLEASE edit that word a little....... it HAS to be done :P

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    Re: Erebus Mk.2 Prelim Spec and Pricing

    Nononono. I'm wouldn't be replacing them because of the stuff that comes with the case. I would be replacing them with something a lot lot better than stock stuff. This was my plan before I chose a case.

    The article I've read seems to point to the quality over the quantity of RAM, so I am deffo now considering 6 over 12. I'll deffo check out the Samsungs when I get chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oricalcos View Post

    The article I've read seems to point to the quality over the quantity of RAM, so I am deffo now considering 6 over 12.
    You sir have never heard of 3ds max

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    You could get a similarly powered rig for under £1000. Message me on Steam and i'll help you out if you want.

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    Re: Erebus Mk.2 Prelim Spec and Pricing

    I'm good with what I've specced by and large. Just a final few details are needed to be decided upon and finalised. I'll post a slightly revised version in a second as an edit, and then put a list on what needs to be finalised.


    EDIT - Table v.2

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    Things to consider:
    • Motherboard - Different Version on P6T?
    • RAM - Different Clock Speed/Latency? 12GB?
    • GFX - GTX 380?
    • HD - An SSD for the OS?
    • Build - Replace Stock Fans on Case (Scythe?)
    • Replacing Headset (Currently Creative Fatal1ty Headset)
    • How to build (Hire ATK Member/Outsider?)
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