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NO NO WRONG!!!
Random number, thats really the only way to do this ( if this is gaming contests there is always the one who is better skilled that wins ) So random number is the most "fun" way to give it and has the best odds for everyone :) i liked the draw last time we did it, and it was very fun to watch the vid but dissapointing when i didint win xD, so yeah i vote for a random number draw.
I definately agree with Mr Big here, I'd rather it be done randomly and not a tournament. Mostly because, though I can't speak for others, I don't see a point in entering a gaming competition because most of those games I haven't played in months/over a year, and never really played competitively anyway.
I just don't see the point in entering a competition I know I have no chance of winning.
...I love how there are two sides to this... the confident regular gamers and those that want a random draw.
Still, it makes sense, if we're going for fair here. No need to overcomplicate it, random draw works fine.
Fine, random draw.
WE could do it as I did at teh nest (cybercafe) when we used to run competitons for games.
We would all play at least one game (usually CS over 3 maps), everyones score would be noted and added to get their total score (kills).
After getting everyones score and a total of every kill made, we would divide every score by the same number so that everyone had a score ranging from 1 usually up to around 20.
Then for every "1" score each player had they had 1 piece of paper with their name on placed in a tin, shaken up, and randomly drawn out.
The shaking and drawing was then repeated 3 times, and if someone won a prize they are discounted from second and third.
This was taken well because it meant that the better players had a higher chance of winning, but overall even if we had 1 person for 150 kills and everyone else with 75, the best person is more likely to not win anything, tho more likley than any other specific person.
Obviously this wouldn't work well with RTS games unless a stupid number of matches are played out, tho if games were to be played with no rules, IE rushing allowed, no unit restrictions, and we got 2 people to play repeatedly for say 1 hour you could get a significant number of wins and losses, tho this would be much more biased than a score based FPS
mitch, that wouldn't work. The players who consider themselves lowskill would rather just have a random draw than play... plus it seems overly complicated
1. Its not overly complicated, its jsut a lot of text. If i wrote how to make a sandwich it would be just as long.Quote:
Originally Posted by D_K_Head
2. The point is to make it something to play for for the low skill players. Even if your not the best player you have a decent chance to play and have fun with everyone else, and between the low scoring people it entices competition.
From practice at the nest i can tell you it was almost always a noob taking first and second prize as the total number of tickets was far greater than the amount the 1 or 2 good players had.
Basically to run it on CS it works like this...
1. Get everyone on a map
2. Restartgame to reset scores.
3. End of map take screenshot of scores
4. Map2
5. Repeat 3.
6. Map3.
7. Repeat 3.
8.Total player scores across maps
9. Add all player scores together (ie. P1 score + P2 score + P3 score = 200)
10. 0.05 x above number (ie. 200 x 0.05 = 10) - This would make the Total numebr of tickets 20, but can be adjusted for accuracy depending on how many tickets you mind having
11. Divide all player totals by this number (ie player1 has score 79 so, 79 / 10 = 7.9, round to 8)
12. Place this number of tickets in hat for each player (ie. Player1 has 8 tickets in hat)
13. Draw.
EDIT: Also in this community none of us are particularly low skilled at CS. And only a few are particularly good at it.
Do not tempt me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phantom
I quite like Piers's idea above.
I like Piers' idea, and is a good hybrid between the different ideas - I'm for that, unless anyone else has big problems with this.
Seems a bit complex (not sure I understood it all) but could work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colonel Mitch
EDIT: Actually I quite like it.
Its not complex its jsut hard to explain without a piece of paper and examples.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phantom
Also we always used Deathmatch so it wasnt die> wait > respawen... die > wait for the noobs. This also helped keep the scores closer.
The only problem is you can have 20million tickects and still not win!!!!
It's very easy to understand tbh.
The more wins the more tickets and the more chances to win, however everyone else will still have tickets thus a good chance of winning.
the other part of stopping people winning more than one prize is just a filter on top of the game and tbh doesn't need to be there, unless the best prizes are counted first. (As the prize order will determine everything in this system) Ie Rubber duck is the 1st prize to be won = the person that has won the most tickets has the most chance of a rubber duck.
However the person with the least tickets has the most chance of winning the last prize drawn.
Thats the whole point.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7@rg37
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Originally Posted by ez64
yeah that was the point. at the nest we had 1st 2nd and 3rd prize drawn in that order, dest being first, worst being third.
This prevented the winner of prize1 winning prizes 2 or 3 as well as this would be unfair. in our case if one person won twice itd still be pretty unfair unless we have loads of crappy prizes.
@ ez i think your saying u thought i meant the top player has a higer chance of winning prize 1 and is then discou ted either way, if so thats not right, nobody is discounted unless they win something, so if top scorer doesnt win first prize there still the most lilley t win second, and again third if they dont win that
I did mean discounted when they have won something, it's fair as long as the order drawn is best to rubber duck.
Indeed :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ez64
Spoils the drama a bit but effectivley can still be done in reverse so long as the draw is made before results are read, tho personally id rather it wasnt done that was as it arouses suspicion, and i pefer to no whos won the bigstuff first too
can I just speak out AGAINST any possible use of deathmatch? that mode sucks more cock that a model at the end of her contract
At the nest we did teams , just like a normal match but u want kills and bomb defuses/plants to get as many tickets as possible :D But it fails as i had over 50kills and nxt was like 30 and still won nothing :S
random number draw !
which i again repeat is the point. your by far the best and still didnt win coz overall u only had like 30% chance of winning.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7@rg37
We used deathmatch to keep it running continually so the noobs wernt jsut always daed and stuck waiting getting no score
Im not that bothered about a random number draw but it seems kinda stupid to do that as we are a GAMING community and we dont want to play any games....
Lets be honest theres only me mitch cillit, and oric that have regularly been on ts and playin games together
I've been sitting in the dark holes of games gone by, recent ones have passed me by tbh - So I'll need a bit of a warm-up :p
I think we should keep the pot till i40 and then use it at the bar and have an ATK piss up :D and maybe buy some sort of lan prize, we can find some random game to play.
this sounds good. We'll all be on blue bands by then, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by 7@rg37
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Originally Posted by D_K_Head
Blue bands is 18+, so won't be me.
tbh akt is dead its now called FPCOC Freddie Piers Chris Oric Community and if u realy wana waste ur money i r most active on ts and best gamer ever gief copy of STO ;)
and clearly the best spella eva
lol @ frederickQuote:
Originally Posted by CILLIT BANG
lol, hey im active here !!!, maby not playing games with youzes
atk has probably been my homepage for the last 2ish years damn
I think I'm going to stick my foot out here and say that I am not willing to make this a skill based competition on gaming performance. I know Mitch's equations were very clever, but to be honest, that's too complicated.
You guys have got to remember that this giveaway is also to try and attract new members, whilst also rewarding those who are much more long-standing. This leads me to think that it HAS to be forum based, since this is where most of us go the most.
To segregate new and old members, we could make it so that the top prize can only be won by a member with more than 50 posts and perhaps make the competition easier to those who have been in ATK longer.
However, by it's definition, a competition still requires skill (of some sort). This is why I think that only the top prize is skill based, but all of the <£20 prizes are more randomly drawn, but you must do SOMETHING to enter. For entry therefore, perhaps a screenshot that sums up community gameplay, or something like that? Everyone has a chance, but the best one wins the top prize. No massive photoshopping will be allowed (sorry vox :p).
screenshot works
Sadcryingface :( lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chalex4
Screenshot that shows community eh? *Jumps onto PR* lol.
Sounds fail. Also chalex how's this gynna attract new members?
Sort of did last time, until we told them to fuck off in classic ATK style.
Tried to find that epic piers teamspeak idle picture but couldn'tQuote:
Originally Posted by Chalex4
You get the point though :D
so because i sleep from 7am to 5pm and am idle for 10 hours that means i cant ever play games? :PQuote:
Originally Posted by ez64
at least ive been coming on TS and actually gaming with freddie n chris, and talking to DE and DP about gaming, and doing some MW2 with vox, bloo and chaz.
maybe get a fuking TS3 server u slacker and why go on a gaming forum when noone plays ... retard ... heres my atk screenshot
oh look its nothing
This seems more appropriate fred
http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/h...060727_ssv.jpg
Maybe we have other games to play, Freddie?
I come here less for the gaming and more for the social aspect, and we occasionally play games together, while it's not often I will admit, I think we all try and play together as often as possible.
(Don't get me wrong, that wasn't meant to be a bash XD)
This is the problem to an extent. As were all friends obvs socializing is cool, but US socialising doesnt help the community grow, and it you look closley on your browsers title, and the HUGE banner it does say GAMING COMMUNITY.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicious Horizon
It jsut seems that whenever i ask people wanna gdo this, fancy a game of this, unless its freddie, chris or chaz, its always - nah cba.
yeh, like over the holidays not many people actually came on ts, however they were all on steam playing games!!!