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mitch, that wouldn't work. The players who consider themselves lowskill would rather just have a random draw than play... plus it seems overly complicated

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Originally Posted by D_K_Head

mitch, that wouldn't work. The players who consider themselves lowskill would rather just have a random draw than play... plus it seems overly complicated

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1. Its not overly complicated, its jsut a lot of text. If i wrote how to make a sandwich it would be just as long.

2. The point is to make it something to play for for the low skill players. Even if your not the best player you have a decent chance to play and have fun with everyone else, and between the low scoring people it entices competition.

From practice at the nest i can tell you it was almost always a noob taking first and second prize as the total number of tickets was far greater than the amount the 1 or 2 good players had.


Basically to run it on CS it works like this...

1. Get everyone on a map
2. Restartgame to reset scores.
3. End of map take screenshot of scores
4. Map2
5. Repeat 3.
6. Map3.
7. Repeat 3.
8.Total player scores across maps
9. Add all player scores together (ie. P1 score + P2 score + P3 score = 200)
10. 0.05 x above number (ie. 200 x 0.05 = 10) - This would make the Total numebr of tickets 20, but can be adjusted for accuracy depending on how many tickets you mind having
11. Divide all player totals by this number (ie player1 has score 79 so, 79 / 10 = 7.9, round to 8)
12. Place this number of tickets in hat for each player (ie. Player1 has 8 tickets in hat)
13. Draw.


EDIT: Also in this community none of us are particularly low skilled at CS. And only a few are particularly good at it.

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Originally Posted by Phantom

Whoever can post the most porn in an hour.

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Do not tempt me.

I quite like Piers's idea above.

I like Piers' idea, and is a good hybrid between the different ideas - I'm for that, unless anyone else has big problems with this.

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Originally Posted by Colonel Mitch

WE could do it as I did at teh nest (cybercafe) when we used to run competitons for games.

We would all play at least one game (usually CS over 3 maps), everyones score would be noted and added to get their total score (kills).

After getting everyones score and a total of every kill made, we would divide every score by the same number so that everyone had a score ranging from 1 usually up to around 20.

Then for every "1" score each player had they had 1 piece of paper with their name on placed in a tin, shaken up, and randomly drawn out.

The shaking and drawing was then repeated 3 times, and if someone won a prize they are discounted from second and third.

This was taken well because it meant that the better players had a higher chance of winning, but overall even if we had 1 person for 150 kills and everyone else with 75, the best person is more likely to not win anything, tho more likley than any other specific person.

Obviously this wouldn't work well with RTS games unless a stupid number of matches are played out, tho if games were to be played with no rules, IE rushing allowed, no unit restrictions, and we got 2 people to play repeatedly for say 1 hour you could get a significant number of wins and losses, tho this would be much more biased than a score based FPS

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Seems a bit complex (not sure I understood it all) but could work.

EDIT: Actually I quite like it.

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Originally Posted by Phantom

Seems a bit complex (not sure I understood it all) but could work.

EDIT: Actually I quite like it.

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Its not complex its jsut hard to explain without a piece of paper and examples.

Also we always used Deathmatch so it wasnt die> wait > respawen... die > wait for the noobs. This also helped keep the scores closer.

The only problem is you can have 20million tickects and still not win!!!!

It's very easy to understand tbh.

The more wins the more tickets and the more chances to win, however everyone else will still have tickets thus a good chance of winning.

the other part of stopping people winning more than one prize is just a filter on top of the game and tbh doesn't need to be there, unless the best prizes are counted first. (As the prize order will determine everything in this system) Ie Rubber duck is the 1st prize to be won = the person that has won the most tickets has the most chance of a rubber duck.

However the person with the least tickets has the most chance of winning the last prize drawn.

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Originally Posted by 7@rg37

The only problem is you can have 20million tickects and still not win!!!!

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Thats the whole point.

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Originally Posted by ez64

It's very easy to understand tbh.

The more wins the more tickets and the more chances to win, however everyone else will still have tickets thus a good chance of winning.

the other part of stopping people winning more than one prize is just a filter on top of the game and tbh doesn't need to be there, unless the best prizes are counted first. (As the prize order will determine everything in this system) Ie Rubber duck is the 1st prize to be won = the person that has won the most tickets has the most chance of a rubber duck.

However the person with the least tickets has the most chance of winning the last prize drawn.

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yeah that was the point. at the nest we had 1st 2nd and 3rd prize drawn in that order, dest being first, worst being third.

This prevented the winner of prize1 winning prizes 2 or 3 as well as this would be unfair. in our case if one person won twice itd still be pretty unfair unless we have loads of crappy prizes.

@ ez i think your saying u thought i meant the top player has a higer chance of winning prize 1 and is then discou ted either way, if so thats not right, nobody is discounted unless they win something, so if top scorer doesnt win first prize there still the most lilley t win second, and again third if they dont win that

I did mean discounted when they have won something, it's fair as long as the order drawn is best to rubber duck.

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Originally Posted by ez64

I did mean discounted when they have won something, it's fair as long as the order drawn is best to rubber duck.

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Indeed :)

Spoils the drama a bit but effectivley can still be done in reverse so long as the draw is made before results are read, tho personally id rather it wasnt done that was as it arouses suspicion, and i pefer to no whos won the bigstuff first too

can I just speak out AGAINST any possible use of deathmatch? that mode sucks more cock that a model at the end of her contract

At the nest we did teams , just like a normal match but u want kills and bomb defuses/plants to get as many tickets as possible :D But it fails as i had over 50kills and nxt was like 30 and still won nothing :S

random number draw !

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Originally Posted by 7@rg37

At the nest we did teams , just like a normal match but u want kills and bomb defuses/plants to get as many tickets as possible :D But it fails as i had over 50kills and nxt was like 30 and still won nothing :S

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which i again repeat is the point. your by far the best and still didnt win coz overall u only had like 30% chance of winning.



We used deathmatch to keep it running continually so the noobs wernt jsut always daed and stuck waiting getting no score

Im not that bothered about a random number draw but it seems kinda stupid to do that as we are a GAMING community and we dont want to play any games....